Joshua Evans and the Deity of Christ, Part 2 (Response to Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God)

Joshua Evans (Yusha Evans) is a former Christian youth pastor, who converted to Islam and presented his “Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God” on the Deen Show. In this video (Part 2 of 4), Sam Shamoun and David Wood examine Joshua’s claims one by one, to see whether any of them actually show that Jesus is not God. As the four-part video series demonstrates, Joshua Evans is woefully ignorant both of the Bible and of basic Christian doctrine.

guys i love your videos here an i swear if u read the KJV this would be so much clearer

JESUS IS YHWH

YHWH Who met with Moses in Exodus ch2, ch6 and sent fiery serpents in Numbers ch21v6, is Christ as expounded by Paul in 1 Corinthians ch10v9

YESHUA IS YHWH

then what about moses he split the sea is he God? what about Adam and eve are they God since they became flesh from gods word and the word became flesh.

About Christ not knowing the hour, is it all that complicated? Not that I claim to remotely understand any more than a mere fraction of God’s complexity even as He, additionally, took on humanity. But think:

  1. If the God in question is trinitarian, is it really strange that the Son, while human, did not know the hour? Understanding this partly falls in the same domain of understanding how the Son, while human, prayed to the Father.
  2. To my Muslim friends and everyone else, just like the example David gave, How is the son being Omniscient (as God) and not knowing the hour (as man) any more different than the Qur’an being eternal (as Allah’s word) and flammable (as a physical book). If we are going to be logically consistent and fault the former…

Joshua did not know the Word of God, neither he knew God and nor was he regenerated, then who made him and how did he become a youth pastor? Joshua is taken over by devil himself because he was already belonging to the devil himself.

The event at the baptism of Jesus Christ not only proves trinity but also the coming and resting of the Holy Spirit upon Christ was a sign given to John the Baptist to show John that Jesus was the Messiah, the one who Baptises His followers in the Holy Spirit.(John 1:32-34).

I don’t believe that guy Joshua was ever Christian. ex Christian may become an atheist but not Muslim, unless they pay him a lot and he is young and may be he was attempted. I know some contraries Muslims convert people with pay or force. But he will not last Muslim for long time. Than he will be worst enemy of Islam😂

Its sad that people will listen to evans and think he has good points, having no desire to actually read the bible or church history for themselves and think that christianity is stupid because of testimonies like his. Our job is to give a good witness for the new covenant established by the living God. But yeah evans is gross and people are foolish for believing him.

They’re really good at refuting but not giving Muslims their own arguments.

Lord JESUS bless Muslims who are suffering and looking for you!

I become strong in Islam faith because of their program and many thanks pastor for your slander.:innocent:

It is very clear that Joshua Evans did not google enough about Islam nor did he know the Bible before leaving Christ, at this time he has to realize all the years lost in that religion.
He only has two options left, or he persists in his error and dies in his sin, or turns to Christ, which I do not think he does out of pride or fear.

Great job David n Sam your program is not only helping muslims know d truth bt it helps me alot in my scripture study as well also guys like Zakir n Deedat spiritual conspiracy stands exposed. Godbless !

This is seriously questioning the credibility of the Deen show. The anchor doesnt seem to know anything about d subject with him only nodding n agreeing to all Joshua is saying

Hey Dave just to let u know I watched this argument twice already. It is that good. I wish u luck In your work. I hate to say it but Muslims are spiritually blind. I just pray that they will see the truth.

How can Jesus be God when the Hebrew Bible says God is not a man? Cf. Numbers 23:19; 1 Samuel 15:29; Hosea 11:9.

Answer:

None of those biblical texts say God CANNOT be a man, but say that God IS not a man, a major difference:

“God IS not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?” Numbers 23:19

“And also the Glory of Israel will not lie or have regret, for he IS not a man, that he should have regret.” 1 Samuel 15:29

“I will not execute my burning anger; I will not again destroy Ephraim; for I am God and not a man, the Holy One in your midst, and I will not come in wrath.” Hosea 11:9

It is true that during the Old Testament period God hadn’t become a man, but this doesn’t deny that God could choose to later become a man, specifically in the Person of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Hebrew Bible itself supports the view that God can become a man, without ceasing to be God, since there are places where God appeared in human form:

“The LORD appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day. Abraham looked up and saw THREE MEN standing nearby. When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground. He said, ‘If I have found favor in your eyes, my lord, do not pass your servant by. Let a little water be brought, and then you may all wash YOUR FEET and rest under this tree. Let me get you something to eat, so you can be refreshed and then go on your way-now that you have come to your servant.’ ‘Very well,’ they answered, ‘do as you say’… He then brought some curds and milk and the calf that had been prepared, and set these before them. WHILE THEY ATE, he stood near them under a tree. ‘Where is your wife Sarah?’ they asked him. ‘There, in the tent,’ he said. THEN THE LORD SAID, ‘I will surely return to you about this time next year, and Sarah your wife will have a son’… THEN THE LORD SAID TO ABRAHAM, ‘Why did Sarah laugh and say, “Will I really have a child, now that I am old?” Is anything too hard for the LORD? I will return to you at the appointed time next year and Sarah will have a son.’ Sarah was afraid, so she lied and said, ‘I did not laugh.’ BUT HE SAID, ‘Yes, you did laugh.’ WHEN THE MEN GOT UP TO LEAVE, they looked down toward Sodom, and Abraham walked along with them to see them on their way. THEN THE LORD SAID, ‘Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do?’ … THEN THE LORD SAID, ‘The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.’ The men turned away and went toward Sodom, BUT ABRAHAM REMAINED STANDING BEFORE THE LORD. Then Abraham APPROACHED HIM and said: ‘Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked? What if there are fifty righteous people in the city? Will you really sweep it away and not spare the place for the sake of the fifty righteous people in it? Far be it from you to do such a thing - to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?’ THE LORD SAID, ‘If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake’… WHEN THE LORD HAD FINISHED SPEAKING WITH ABRAHAM, HE LEFT, and Abraham returned home.” Genesis 18:1-5, 8-10a, 13-17, 20-26, 33

To support the premise that God actually appeared as one of the three men note that Genesis 18:22 says the men got up and headed towards Sodom and Gomorrah, whereas Yahweh remained behind with Abraham:

“So the men turned from there, and went toward Sodom; but Abraham still stood before the LORD.” RSV

Now if Yahweh wasn’t one of the three men then we would expect to find that all three men went ahead to Sodom. But this is not what we find since the very next chapter says:

“The TWO angels came to Sodom in the evening; and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and bowed himself with his face to the earth, and said, ‘My lords, turn aside, I pray you, to your servant’s house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise up early and go on your way.’ They said, ‘No; we will spend the night in the street.’ But he urged them strongly; so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he made them a feast, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate.” Genesis 19:1-3 RSV

Only two men show up at Sodom, which the text identifies as two angels. Where was the third man? You guessed it, the third man had remained behind to talk to Abraham since that man was actually Yahweh God who had appeared with the other two!

Noted Messianic Jewish scholar, writer, and evangelist Dr. Michael L. Brown mentions the interesting comments the rabbis made about this specific text:

"According to the Talmud (b. Bava Messia 86b), God himself was paying Abraham a personal sick call, checking on him after the ordeal of circumcision. Here is the expanded translation of Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz (the actual words of the Talmud are in bold). We read that Abraham went out

and saw the Holy One, blessed be He, standing at the door of his tent, as the verse says, ‘And the Lord appeared to him by the terebinths of Mamre.’ This is what the verse is referring to when it says (Gen 18:3): 'And he said, “O Lord, if now I have found favor in Your sight, do not, I pray you, pass by Your servant.”'In this verse Abraham was speaking to God himself (and so addressed Him as Lord and referred to himself as His servant.) When God saw thatAbraham was busy tying and untying the bandages of his circumcision, He said to Himself, ‘It is not fitting that I stay here while Abraham is taking care of His wound.’ He was about to remove His presence when Abraham pleaded with Him to stay a little longer. And this is also what the verse refers to when it says (Genesis 18:2): ‘And he raised his eyes and looked, and,behold, three men stood by him; and when he saw them, he ran to meet them.’

Now, here, we have a biblical text that indisputably says that the Lord - Hebrew YHWH - appeared to Abraham and the Talmud even relates in story form how Abraham actually saw ‘the Holy One, blessed be He,’ addressing him as Lord. Yet, just a few words later, this very same biblical text says that Abraham looked up and saw three men, the Talmud giving the impression that God himself appeared to Abraham, only to be replaced by these men.

Who were the three men?.. According to the Talmud, the three men were the angels, Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael, each with his own special task. Michael came to give Sarah the good news that she would soon have a son, Raphael came to heal Abraham, and Gabriel went to overthrow the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah (although the Talmud says that Michael went along with Gabriel so as to rescue Lot). But there are problems with this view too. First, the text nowhere says that the angels replaced or represented the Lord. Instead, the Bible says that the Lord appeared to Abraham, that he saw three men, and that he addressed one of them both as Lord ('adonai) and as YHWH. Second, the context indicates clearly that two of the men went on to Sodom- where they are identified as angels- and that Abraham stayed before YHWH, with whom he had extended dialogue. To be faithful to the Scriptures we must say that the Lord, with two angels, appeared to Abraham, and all three appeared as human beings who spoke, ate, and drank with Abraham and Sarah." (Brown, Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus: Theological Objections [Baker Books, Grand Rapids, MI 2000], Volume 2, pp. 31-33)

“Joshua has some issues” - David Wood

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Yusha Ivans :point_left::point_left::point_left:former young preacher ,he hv no knowledge about basic Bible teaching , TRINITY APPEARS IN VERY FIRST BOOK OF GENESIS