Joshua Evans and the Deity of Christ, Part 2 (Response to Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God)

its quite funny muslims know the truth and still want to find meanings to it…they should prepare themselves to tie milestones on them and go to the new beach to cast themselves into it…BLESS TO JESUS CHRIST OUR GOD

In fact, God is good. Muslims worldwide claim that Jesus Christ is not God. This is due to their ignorance. They only pick texts out of context and base their arguments on. They’ll never know what the truth is. You two men are good. God bless you.

Just ponder how can God can become man,when
According to Nasa experts Universe has at least 2 trillion galaxies (only God knows the exact number) AND our Milky Way where our world is and where we live is just one of these,so Milky Way by itself is a drop of water in the ocean in the midst of these 2 trillion galaxies THEN our world in our Milky Galaxy is a drop of water in the ocean NOW ponder how God can become a lets say 2 meter human being and be a drop of water in the ocean in comparison to world WHEN world to MilkyWay and Milky Way to other at least 2 trillion galaxies are a drop of water to the ocean.IMAGINE just IMAGE How God can become the smallest thing in the Universe wich He Himself created.?

Hoi, Jesus is not God, is een men

Both are trying very hard to justify Trinity but fails miserably.

Jesus Christ is both Man and Almighty GOD.
without the HOLY Spirit ,some ppl will not understand this.
Holy spirit is the comforter ,the spirit of TRUTH.

Just want to share something. kindly read :slight_smile:

Babies starts to hear on third trimester in the mother womb. Hearing develops before sight in the embryo stage , and it is the first sense that functions in life. after hearing and sight… comes the intelligence, feeling… etc. and of course the intelligence/understanding/feeling comes after we hear and see.
please see below from quran. consistently starts with hearing first over sight. and… this is from 1400 years ago.

Surah An-Nahl, Verse 78:
وَاللَّهُ أَخْرَجَكُم مِّن بُطُونِ أُمَّهَاتِكُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ شَيْئًا وَجَعَلَ لَكُمُ السَّمْعَ وَالْأَبْصَارَ وَالْأَفْئِدَةَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَشْكُرُونَ

It is He Who brought you forth from the wombs of your mothers when ye knew nothing; and He gave you hearing and sight and intelligence and affections: that ye may give thanks (to Allah).

Surah Al-Mumenoon, Verse 78:
وَهُوَ الَّذِي أَنشَأَ لَكُمُ السَّمْعَ وَالْأَبْصَارَ وَالْأَفْئِدَةَ قَلِيلًا مَّا تَشْكُرُونَ

It is He Who has created for you (the faculties of) hearing, sight, feeling and understanding: little thanks it is ye give!

Surah As-Sajda, Verse 9:
ثُمَّ سَوَّاهُ وَنَفَخَ فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِهِ وَجَعَلَ لَكُمُ السَّمْعَ وَالْأَبْصَارَ وَالْأَفْئِدَةَ قَلِيلًا مَّا تَشْكُرُونَ

But He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him something of His spirit. And He gave you (the faculties of) hearing and sight and feeling (and understanding): little thanks do ye give!

Surah Al-Ahqaf, Verse 26:
وَلَقَدْ مَكَّنَّاهُمْ فِيمَا إِن مَّكَّنَّاكُمْ فِيهِ وَجَعَلْنَا لَهُمْ سَمْعًا وَأَبْصَارًا وَأَفْئِدَةً فَمَا أَغْنَىٰ عَنْهُمْ سَمْعُهُمْ وَلَا أَبْصَارُهُمْ وَلَا أَفْئِدَتُهُم مِّن شَيْءٍ إِذْ كَانُوا يَجْحَدُونَ بِآيَاتِ اللَّهِ وَحَاقَ بِهِم مَّا كَانُوا بِهِ يَسْتَهْزِئُونَ

And We had firmly established them in a (prosperity and) power which We have not given to you (ye Quraish!) and We had endowed them with (faculties of) hearing, seeing, heart and intellect: but of no profit to them were their (faculties of) hearing, sight, and heart and intellect, when they went on rejecting the Signs of Allah; and they were (completely) encircled by that which they used to mock at!

Surah Al-Mulk, Verse 23:
قُلْ هُوَ الَّذِي أَنشَأَكُمْ وَجَعَلَ لَكُمُ السَّمْعَ وَالْأَبْصَارَ وَالْأَفْئِدَةَ قَلِيلًا مَّا تَشْكُرُونَ

Say: "It is He Who has created you (and made you grow), and made for you the faculties of hearing, seeing, feeling and understanding: little thanks it is ye give.

Muslims can debate these 3 guys need Google why do you have 2 bibles new testerment and old testerment which one is correct ìslam one God òne Quran makes census

If this guy was a pastor i want to know how he became one because hes dumb even i know more then him and im ane early training apologist, he clearly doesnt know truth thats why hes been lead to islam, to lies amd decieving and taking verses out context, hes doing what shabir and naik do, so i reckon hes been watching them or learning from them, fact muslims have keep lying kinda shows their religion is false, their religion is an arabian pagan cult thats mixed judaism and christianity in with it, to make it look more abrahamic, and also just tell you a fact that you cant deny, muslims worship muhammad and raise him up to a deity, muslims pray to muhammad and allah, whaaat, and pray to kaaba, allah goes into a box lol ? Is he trapped lol ? Sorry but islam is a joke, i could refute most muslims with ease because 3/4 them are being lied too, i pray for them

my last comment here; adequate reflection should let people arrive at the conclusion that if God didn’t directly say it and His Human Prophet [AS] informed the community, no sincere follower that listened will arrive at anything other than what was said, except that he was a hypocrite. how can Jesus be author of life when God Almighty is clearly that, authored the lives of everything, including that of Jesus [AS] and gave it proper measure? Did Jesus say to Peter or any of his 12 disciples that he is the Author of life, including those Angels, all unseen and seen creatures including that of man to include that of his mother and all of us till end of time? Satan has a life and he is still alive. Is Jesus the Author of the life of Satan that tempted him so much so that he got him on a cliff, physically or by coercion of his mind/heart? Death is still alive. Did Jesus created death and should death be able to overtake him making him dead to his nations for as long as the christians claim he died, while Allah/God that sent him can not be touched by death, but will make death die at the end remaining only He [read QUran Chapter 55 to know that God is the One death will never reach]?

Peter spoke what he had no authority. i say somebody spoke it in writing on the lips of Peter if it is true that Peter was a believer in Jesus [AS] son of Mary who came for the house of Israel in its 12 tribal nations, all of the disbelieving lost sheep of them, struggling tp steer them back into belief.

what bleeds like humans and looks like male can not be God. there is no way God will empty Himself of God quality and become human so much so that all we see is human qualities, at best a prophet of God performing miracles suitable for his community of listeners.

“Jesus has a glory with god before the world existed” simply in the knowledge of god he knew Jesus was a great messenger even before creation…such as what God told “David” i think: i have made you a prophet in your mother womb.

Qur’an 5:116 " And behold! Allah will say: “O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah.?” He will say: “Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden”
The verse does not talk about the trinity, it’s just talking about worshipping jesus and his morther as some catholics do.
The verse that talks about the trinity is 4:171 “O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not “Trinity” : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth”
and 5:72 " They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them."

“صلوات” أو “يصلي” has different meanings in arabic: if it’s attributed to God or angels, it means
compliment or praise.
if attributed to a prophet like in 9:103 means asking for mercy or forgiveness. If attributed to anyone else, normally it means prayer as an act of worship; so it has a contectual meaning.

Jesus fell on his face and prayed: this is a clear act of weakness and asking for something. Qur’an never says Allah or his angels fell on their faces for someone.

“in the purpose of tasting human limitations” as if God cannot fully know that without being himself like every creature he made…this is very crazy!!
“come to me and i’ll make you rest” do not you believe in God’s miracles…come on…God DID BY HIM, Acts.

“pray to the father” David tried to justify that, but it’s clear that praying is an act of weakness and asking help from whoever you believe is stronger than you…which is not the case of the trinitarian belief “coequal” !!.

He doesn’t need to become an athiest Sam, his “man nature” just asks his “God nature” (as if there can be these two in one) and he does with his godly powers whatever his human nature asks for without asking someone who is supposedly not greater or more capable than him.i.e. the father!

I think the resemblence David made between God and Qur’an is not right BECAUSE: God’s characteristics and attributes are eternal and not changing as they constitute God’s very nature or essence, so God HIMSELF cannot take a human form (with a begining and end…etc) while keeping his eternal nature BECAUSE that implies that he would acquire new characteristics and attributes that were not with him before this moment (i.e. human characteristics) and that he would also cease having these attributes at another point of time (i.e. when this man dies or so) and that cannot happen because its against the very eternal nature of ALL of God’s characteristics and attributes. I hope i explained it well.Second; as for the Qur’an the situation is far different because the Qur’aan an all God’s revelations represent his words or speech. The point here is that whereas the words of God are part of his knowledge and power, so they are eternal and cannot be changed BUT its effect on our world is subjected to time and space. For example, God’s revelation are part of God’s knowledge which is eternal but in order for the revelation to have effect on our world it has to be revealed at a certain point of time and space when God wills to reveal some of his words or knowledge to us. Hence, the power or knowledge itself hasn’t changed at all; it is just its effect on us that has a beginning and end if God wills. What i mean is that God’s Words haven’t changed or took a new form or characteristics; they are just revealed or uncovered, so we have to differentiate between God’s eternal Words or Knowledge and its effect on our world. BUT in order to say that God had two natures and he took a form at a certain point of time, this is not an effect…this is a part of God’s very essence and attributes are changing here…AND THAT’S CANNOT BE. God is all knowing.

John the writer was a follower of jesus! are you kidding me…it’s not john the disciple gentlemen. Scholars date this gospel to at least 90 years after jesus ministry…and it’s well known that none of the 4 gospels were rlwritten by any disciple of jesus.

“holy one:” all the prophets of God are holy, but God alone is the most holy as the source of holiness.
“author of life” or “prince of life” as in KJV simply an expression of exalting jesus for his miracles of reviving the dead by the will of God and give them life again.
In the same verse: “whom God has raised from the dead” this is a clear distinction betwenn GOD and Jesus.

why is it when some Americans convert to Islam, they take on a middle eastern accent? lol Joshua seems to try and have an accent

these two ‘brokeback mountains’ is a joke…, no muslim will take these two jokers seriously…

Many muslims also do not know how their faith came to their ancesters, certanly it wasnt done in a peaceful and loving manner.